Family says she attempted to contact the police over 20 times. [–]theoriginalharbinger 27 points28 points29 points 1 year ago (3 children), For both /u/ShampooMohawk42 and /u/houston_oilers -. If they are doing this pro bono, I would be really surprised. After an officer ran away from a citizen being stabbed and hid, the citizen being stabbed tried to sue the police for not protecting him. I'm sure if they were at all concerned about potential legal costs, they wouldn't be doing so. McCluskey, 21, was shot several times by her ex-boyfriend Melvin Rowland, 37, on October 22, 2018 outside her dorm room in Lauren McCluskey was killed by an ex-boyfriend just days after she told police someone was using explicit photos of her to extort her. However, due to both Utah sovereign immunity law (PDF Warning) as well as a fairly well-established ruling that police have no duty to protect (only warning I can offer here is that if you thought the McCluskey story was one of incompetence, Warren is about twenty times worse), this will be a tough uphill battle for the McCluskey family. [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Man and look at her she could have had whoever she wanted and she hated her parents so much she picked the rapist, Lmao she let him borrow her car? I would think getting a lawyer to take on a case that's very likely to lose pro bono might be a bit more difficult considering how discouraged pro bono work is by billable hours structuring that's popular in law firms. Was police inaction to blame. I am just another normal, good guy who would've wanted to protect & save Lauren had I known about it at the time. Keep the peace is more about preventing riots and mass chaos. This is such a hard case. NBC Dateline: She Did Everything Right. There's almost no way they'll win this one. They’ve made massive changes to the safety of campus only after the student body demanded it. [–]jwrig 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). Matt McCluskey, left, wipes his eyes as he and his wife, Jill, listen to a speaker on the two-year anniversary of their daughter Lauren McCluskey’s death at the McCarthey Family Track and Field Complex in Salt Lake City on Thursday, Oct. 22, 2020. [–]meat_tunnelSalt Lake City 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]ForgotPasswordAgain- 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child). Genuinely confused as to how "they can watch you get stabbed" and "police ... keep the peace" are able to jive in court. Entirely possible the bar already reached a settlement agreement without a lawsuit being filed. Lauren McCluskey death: University of Utah settles with family Did she contact the University directly? She was 21. If a lawyer convinced the McCluskey to go after this lawsuit using a pay upfront model, he's probably a shit bag. On the other hand, the negligence they allege was on the part of campus police, so it still probably won't go anywhere. Rowland shot her multiple times once he had her inside the car. Local News. [–]HomelessRodeoPie and Beer Day 22 points23 points24 points 1 year ago (0 children). Order the official race shirt here! Want to organize a meetup? Close. Actually, she's dead because of the murderer. I love our legal system. meet lauren mccluskey 2 years ago, lauren was being stalked by an ex-boyfriend and blackmailed with nude photos. This woman reached out for help over 20 times and is now dead as a result of nothing being done. roll eyes, [–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago (5 children). Collect your dead body? And it wouldn’t make a difference when this is what you can get from every department. I think it's safe to assume theyre doing this willingly. While some municipalities are well-known for settling cases in which police legitimately use force, it's well-nigh impossible to take legal action against law enforcement for not protecting the public adequately. It's one thing to read that the police are doing an internal evaluation of their procedures. and join one of thousands of communities. 60.4k members in the SaltLakeCity community. It's possible that the parents are not as interested in getting a settlement, and instead they would prefer to use publicity to force the University and the campus police write new policies. They can't be held liable even if they drop the ball like this or even stand and watch you get stabbed on a New York subway train. In fact those rulings had a big influence on changing the perception of the second amendment. What the fuck does that solve? A convicted sex offender whom she had met just a month earlier was continually harassing her after she ended their short relationship. University Police are state-bonded and state-certified. (CNN) – Lauren McCluskey was both concerned and frustrated when she called Salt Lake City Police on October 19. The parole officer would have noted his clear violations of the terms of his parole, and she might not be dead. The parents of Lauren McCluskey contend that a campus police officer disseminated explicit images of the University of Utah student that had been used by her killer to blackmail her. But police at the University of Utah, where she was a student, weren’t doing enough to put a stop to it, she said in a call to 911. Hey, white knight, stop making this about you. I was a student this spring and I’m still not completely satisfied that it’s safe there. Ruth Watkins and Dale Brophy both deserve to lose their jobs. 3 3 4 433. So a single officer is allowed to ignore a single stabbing, but is required to intervene during a mass stabbing. They should also go after every other agency (911, SLC Police) involved as well. Local NewsFamily of student Lauren McCluskey to take legal action against University of Utah following her death. One motion to dismiss later and the lawsuit was gone. PAC 12. 2018-10-26T00:55:50-04:00. (CNN) – Lauren McCluskey was both concerned and frustrated when she called Salt Lake City Police on October 19. According to Alex, Lauren told her that every time Lauren tried to make Rowland leave, he forced himself on her sexually. It's extremely unlikely they'll win. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. It'll likely take one motion to dismiss and then it'll be over. I think they might have a case against the U moreso than the U Police. Your kind words have helped give me the confidence to turn my quarantine hobby into a side hustle keeping me afloat through COVID and my degree. The only time I can recall a person won a lawsuit against police for not providing protection was because they convinced the court that the reason police didn't do anything was because the complainant was a female. I’m not sure what that would be at this point. [–]EpithymeticCentral City 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). https://fox13now.com/2019/06/26/mccluskey-family-to-file-title-ix-lawsuit-attorney-says-suit-is-designed-to-improve-safety/, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia. It won't go far in regards to the Public Duty Doctrine. Obviously that all changed and hindsight is 20/20. [–]iamdinosaurRAWR 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (7 children). I don’t think it’s as straightforward as people are saying it is. Not to mention, I would imagine there is no shortage of lawyers who may want to advise (discounted or pro-bono) on a case that has this much public traction. Counter: 263638. The SCOTUS has held that there is not constitutional duty of the police to protect you. Yeah, it's Siegfried and Jensen. At the time of her death, Lauren McCluskey, of Pullman, Wash., Was a communications major and an athletic athlete. [–]Kevin_ComplainsGlendale 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]LuxzinHolladay[S] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children), https://www.ksl.com/article/46583135/parents-of-slain-student-lauren-mccluskey-sue-university-of-utah. This guy convinced her that he was someone else and when she found out he was lying, she broke up with, then let him borrow her car? [–]canyousavetheclique 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children). Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. This goes on throughout life. Because government needs to keep functioning of course... [–]ForgotPasswordAgain- -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago (0 children). University of Utah student Lauren McCluskey’s 911 calls asked police to stop her harasser. They are suing the University, which is going to be subject to different standards than the campus police. edit subscriptions. ... help Reddit App Reddit coins Reddit premium Reddit gifts. The family is willingly taking this on. I think the lawsuit is a Title IX violation suit? Found a bug? A big success! There's also a metric fuckton of precedent at the state level saying that the police don't have to protect you unless there are very specific circumstances that have occurred. The only way this case would get significant publicity is if it actually made it to court which is extremely unlikely given how there's dozens of cases like this where the courts ruled in the police's favor. It's generally in the interest of the university that none of their students get murdered on their watch. Are university police ACTUAL police though? What does "keep the peace" mean if stopping a violent crime in progress doesn't fall under it's scope? 140 votes, 44 comments. Obviously saying he wasn’t dangerous was a miscalculation. [–]robocall_apocalypse 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). [–]westkms 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). [+]defend74 comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points 1 year ago (0 children), [+]beersleuth comment score below threshold-8 points-7 points-6 points 1 year ago (1 child). Here is the new timeline from the university, in full: “The following timeline is based on contacts University Police had with Lauren McCluskey … “They haven’t updated or done anything,” she added. The University of Utah track athlete shot dead by an ex-boyfriend told police she’d recently sent the man $1,000 to keep compromising photos from being posted online, university officials revealed Thursday. Great! Check out the past submissions before positing similar threads. You also have DeShaney v. Winnebago County and Castle Rock v. Gonzales to reaffirm. Take a seat. Lauren McCluskey, a 21-year-old communications major and track athlete from Pullman, Washington, was fatally shot Oct. 22, 2018, near her campus dorm by Melvin Shawn Rowland, who took his own life hours later. By Salvador Hernandez. What a waste of time. Lauren McCluskey, 21, was fatally shot by 37-year-old Melvin Rowland on October 22, 2018, after she broke up with him upon learning he had lied … (ksl.com), [–]rathulachtRose Park 181 points182 points183 points 1 year ago (5 children). [–]wordsofaurelius 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child). Reddit gives you the best of the internet in one place. Nothing else matters. This isn't doing anything that hasn't been done already. The parents of Lauren McCluskey, the University of Utah student who was allegedly shot and killed by her now-deceased ex-boyfriend, say their … We don't arrest people until they commit crimes. It is just an ugly situation that will have no satisfying resolution on either side. I guess that is my point is it will just become a character question and at the end of the day the police are going to argue they were given an incomplete picture and were explicitly told by the victim she didn't think she was in danger. Meaning they have full arrest authority, have been through POST, etc. The police investigate crimes and keep the peace, those are the limits of their duties under US law. [–]iamdinosaurRAWR 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children), [–]defend74 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (3 children), [–]iamdinosaurRAWR -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago (2 children), [–]defend74 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children). Constitutionally it has been determined that police are not here to protect and serve. Lauren McCluskey, a … It's already been national news that the police knew about her attacker, and it's been statewide news that there were many attempts by McCluskey to get help from the police. They are suing the University for $56 Million. Lauren McCluskey The University of Utah police has ordered a new investigation into whether a former officer inappropriately shared explicit photos of a 21-year-old student, Lauren McCluskey, that were being used by her ex-boyfriend to blackmail her in 2018. [–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (3 children). The university, in announcing the settlement, apologized for the many institutional […] List of Organizations Benefiting Black Americans. They don't act as security guards for people who feel threatened. during that time one of the officers saved the nude images and bragged about it to a fellow officer. It's worth noting that the parents are not suing the police, or even the campus police. McCluskey started dating Melvin Rowland in September 2018, according to the university-commissioned independent review of campus police actions. I'm not saying I agree with it, but that's how it is. In the process, Lauren dropped her cellphone and belongings. But certainly don't let the city burn down, and especially watch over town hall and the Governor's mansion. They don't have to give a shit about individuals. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. [–]mediocrebjjslc 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children). So many fucking people dropped the ball on this girl, who did everything she could to try and get help when she needed it. Twice in 2015, Salt Lake City police suspected Melvin Shawn Rowland — who last week fatally shot student Lauren McCluskey on the University of Utah campus — of Cops have literally watched a man get stabbed on a subway in NYC from a few feet away without intervening because they know they have no duty to protect. The u/BigYoung71 community on Reddit. I hated hearing about this story. In 2019, McCluskey’s parents filed a $56 million federal lawsuit against the college and campus police. This shit gets litigated multiple times a year, and the police win every time because they cannot be held liable if something happens to you. Why the fuck do these other guys want to keep hurting women? [–]kingofthe2hole 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (2 children). Because these types of crimes keep happening. [–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (1 child). [–]downvotemebby 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children). Also see castle rock v gonzales, a similar case to warren v DC but at the supreme court level. [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children). jump to content. Reddit; Lauren McCluskey with her parents, Dateline's 'She Did Everything Right' (NBC) The Dateline episode “She Did Everything Right” investigates the 2018 murder of Lauren McCluskey. I swear some stereotypes are true no matter how much people bitch and moan, [–]percipientbiasUtah County 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (0 children). Posted by. Police are not personal security guards but they are here to PROTECT AND SERVE. “I’m worried because I’ve been working with the campus police at the U, and last Saturday I reported and I haven’t gotten an update,” she told Salt Lake City Police dispatch. just days after filing the complaint, lauren was murdered by the ex-boyfriend. [–]HelperBot_ 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children), Desktop link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia. They're going to waste their money suing. On the other hand... they're using Siegfried and Jensen. If so, then they might have a case. [–]jwrig 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). He took his own life shortly after. Rendered by PID 20734 on r2-app-0ad6ed744a4fc8f93 at 2020-12-15 14:59:51.147862+00:00 running d560d10 country code: CZ. Family says she attempted to contact the police over 20 times. So the parents are going to spend a bunch of money and maybe get a settlement. [–]Noone-of-consequence 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (2 children). They might be doing it for the publicity, I guess. It doesn't matter if you think that's right or wrong, that's the law. Lauren McCluskey, a 21-year-old senior from Pullman, Washington, was slain Monday night on the campus in Salt Lake City, police said. Considering the information that has already been published about this story, what additional information do you expect? If the campus police had run his records, they would have been able to contact the parole officer. [–]Inebriator 19 points20 points21 points 1 year ago* (5 children), University police don't care about any students' safety, only the interests of the university, [–]Eternalsins 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (2 children). In this case, it wouldn't be about winning a lawsuit for them. don’t turn your guns in so fast folks, they might be the only thing protecting you. But I can say with confidence that the fact that she denied an escort and stated that she didn’t feel he was a threat is going to make this case a lot more difficult for the family. [–]Creenburg 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). Reported by Deseret News “That night, he stayed in her room. And again... police aren't personal security. Family of student Lauren McCluskey to take legal action against University of Utah following her death. The couple planned to file a second lawsuit Monday after mediation talks were unsuccessful. Lawsuit. Holladay. Maybe there is some embarrassing information that will make the parents regret the lawsuit. Someone — she wasn’t certain who at … Landlords evict hundreds of Utah renters each month despite a ban during the pandemic (SLTrib). Their is no other option. 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